Chuck,
I'd be willing to be RV some targets you pick out.
Email me and we can discuss it.
Ralph
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i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.
Chuck,
I'd be willing to be RV some targets you pick out.
Email me and we can discuss it.
Ralph
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CIA PSYCHICS - Remote Viewing Video
This is one of shows I saw on A & E channel.
It's available for 14.95 at: AandE.com
Just visit the store, do a search on "CIA" or
Item Number: AAE-12531
Description of Video:
In the depths of the Cold War, when no development went unanswered and any "gap" was a crisis, America learned that the USSR had a program in psychic research. Inevitably, the government responded with a paranormal project of its own, spending $20 million on "remote viewing" from 1976 to 1995!
In CIA PSYCHICS, three men who worked as psychic operatives tell stories of supernatural spying. Chief Warrant Officer Joseph McMoneagle sensed the location of General Dozier, then held hostage by the Red Brigade in Italy. Master Sergeant Melvin Riley drew pictures of the top secret B-2 bomber long before its existence was made public. And Captain Paul Smith sensed a tragic loss of life at sea hours before the submarine USS Stark went down in foreign waters. Despite apparent successes like these, the "remote viewing" program was cancelled in 1995. Did these men really use supernatural powers to discover military secrets and predict disasters, or can their findings be explained in other ways? CIA PSYCHICS examines all the evidence and asks you to decide.
Here's a list places where RV has been discussed in the media:
http://www.lfr.org/csl/media/publicity.shtml
Here is the research and commentary on the study that helped
to close the FT Meade unit. They studied only non-classified
material from the last year of the unit.
I quote Professor Jessica Utts, Division of Statistics
University of California, Davis
"Using the standards applied to any other area of science, it is concluded that psychic functioning has been well established. The statistical results of the studies examined are far beyond what is expected by chance. Arguments that these results could be due to methodological flaws in the experiments are soundly refuted. Effects of similar magnitude to those found in government-sponsored research at SRI and SAIC have been replicated at a number of laboratories across the world. Such consistency cannot be readily explained by claims of flaws or fraud."
http://www.lfr.org/csl/media/ciaairreport.shtml
Cya,
Ralph
P.S. Really, this is part of me fading off the list... just
had to post a little more... ;-)
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Julien:
> Why is this jargon needed?
Just like there is a cyberlanguage or computer geek speak.
So too, RVers have
developed terminology to help explains types of perceptions,
impressions and analysis. The process of pulling out perceptions
and reporting the information can be complicated, depending on the
session.
I was trained by P>S>I - Lyn Buchanan:
http://www.crviewer.com/crviewer/index.html
Here's a site that explains the terminology and contains the
manual they used at Fort Meade and the variation I use taught
by P>S>I:
http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/core2.cfm
Cynicus:
The amazing Randi is really amazing... go check out these
two sites. There's more. Do a search and see.
http://survivalscience.50megs.com/torandi.htm
http://www.geocities.com/randiexpert2001/
Glenn - Military Remote Viewer:
I am happily surprised to see Glenn enter the discusson.
He heads the Hawaii Remote Viewers Guild.
I had the pleasure of briefly meeting Glenn and other
Hawaii RVers at the International Remote Viewers Association
conference. Though I haven't trained in the method Glenn teaches,
I am impressed by the results. I believe his site offers
training for a reasonable fee. It also has a BBS, newsletter,
examples posted of HRV sessions. Glenn has a lot more experience than I do at RV... website: www.hrvg.org
Meanwhile I hope to meet Dave from this list and show him some
sessions. So far I haven't heard from him.
I'm planning on fading off the list soon because I'm
pretty busy. Though I'm not a Jehovah's witness...
(but do have some friends who are), I found everyone
to be quiet friendly here while discussing RV.
I can be reached at my email address if you have
any other questions.
Cya, See ya, see you, ;-)
- Ralph
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Chuck,
The way targets were originally assigned were by using map
coordinates.
Read Remote Viewers - Jim Schnabel
They then found coordinates didn't matter.
The target is assigned by "Intent" of tasker.
Or the target is the tasker.
I was trained to use date and viewer number to assign
my targets.
I use that number as my queue for the target. But I don't
need it to hit the target.
Then I work the session... write down what comes through.
Chuck said:
>If someone tosses out a number of ideas and concepts, letting only >those which match count as "hits" while dismissing the misses is not >going to give a very valid result in any test.
When we score a session we take misses into account.
I really don't want to get into how to score a session here
either. Because what you want to know is if this is real
or B.S.
www.irva.org - has papers written by researchers on the
subject of RV.
Cya,
Ralph
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i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.
Chuck,
The Army had an RV unit close to twenty years. Did it have value?
This was a Black Ops Intelligence unit. These are serious military people in an Intelligence environment that took their jobs seriously. Ask yourself why hasn't all the material been
declassified if has no value? Very little has been declassified.
But there are plenty of examples that show it works.
Read: Remote Viewers by Jim Schabel it's only 5.99 in paperback.
It explains the history of RV and how it was used and who the
scientist and RVers are...
Does China have a Psychic unit, sure they do, read:
China's Super Psychics _ Paul Dong
Do the Soviets have unit, well that was confirmed by the CIA.
And it was sponsored by KGB.
If it didn't work why would the biggest nations in the world
have units?
I'm confused about your location question. The target should
be a location and the RVer should return a description of
the location. For example: Let's say it's a Catholic Church.
The viewer might get, it's a structure, tall, city, people,
it has a religous feel to it, it's quiet like a library.
Gray, concrete, colorful glass, pizza, cows, and cookies.
Mind you they may be having a program at the time of the church
is viewed where they are serving pizza and cookies. But
the cow would just be an AOL (analytical overlay).
Though the RVer didn't say Catholic church, the other perceptions
would be considered good info. The actuall session might
have a lot of AOL's and some good info, or it may build into
a good description of the target.
I find your second question about admitting this doesn't work
a bit strange. But let's address it.
I've been training for four years.
If it didn't work and I didn't see results do you think
I would continued training? Let me tell you, I would have
walked away. I have better things to do with my time and money.
I've had some great sessions and some not so great sessions.
So you want me to admit it doesn't work because I miss one target?
Doesn't that seem a bit silly?
I wouldn't be here talking about RV if I hadn't seen for
myself that it works.
Ralph
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I was referring to the car target.
It was a car.
To expect someone to say it's a VW, is expecting a lot.
I mean I've RV'd boats before and I certainly had no clue
of the Make or model.
Sometimes submarines come through as boats too. I believe
it's possible to come up with Make but generally it's rare.
>A circle covers a lot of territory; the moon does not.
I agree, but if someone says it's a planet. Would you give it
to them or would agrue that they need to say it's the moon?
I RV'ed the Sun once and I called it a Star. Was I right or
wrong?
>Also, what is the size of a part? Does one small dot in the corner of the picture constitute a part?
No. What I meant is this... when you RV a target many time
invalid perceptions come through or invalid analysis of the
perceptions. So a person can hit the target and describe it
incorrectly. I posted a Dilbert cartoon on my website
that shows what I mean. My website is: www.copsoftware.com
Go to MISC links then Remote Viewing and select the Dilbert
cartoon. It's a good example of what I'm trying to describe.
Scott Adams did the cartoon because he too was skepitical and
saw it work. So he pokes fun at Skeptics because some will
never see how it works.
>How are we going to agree on a neutral third party?
Good question. I'm sure we can come up with something.
>If we can work out the details, I will take your bet.
I don't consider it a bet, I'm not putting 1,000.00 on the
table. ;-) I know RV works... can't afford if I miss, not
to mention the pressure on me while I'm RVing... LOL
Ralph
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Thanks for the invite.
You need to have a better understanding of what to expect
when someone RV's a target.
Let me give you a few examples. The subsconscious communicates
via pictures, feelings and memories. So what might be a
good description of the target, may appear with mixed analysis
of the perceptions. www.hrvg.org has sessions posted that
will give you a better idea how this works...
Plus the books I mentioned earlier are filled with examples.
Anyway, what I saw was that someone did hit your target
and you all joked about it.
So, what to do... why don't all the skeptics put a 1000.00
dollars in a pot, we'll have a third party judge and if I
the Judge says I described any part of the target I get the
money. If I don't you guys can harass me? That seems fair. LOL
People can easily say things don't work, or prove it to me.
But are they willing to put it on the line for money?
Remote Viewing works, let's get 5k on the table, come on!
I'm sure I could get a few other viewers to RV too.
I'm tired of the B.S. of people putting down RV.
So people put up or shut up. Let's see some real money held
by a third party that understands RV.
Ralph
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The discussions you are having are pretty typical concerning
whether it works or not... I've had the same with many people and
have proved to them that it works.
Just for the record. There are many scientists that have studied
Remote Viewing. The CIA originally funded the study from
Stanford Research Institute to see if Psychic functioning was real
and if it was a threat to national security. And it was considered
a threat and probably still is.
You can read more on the history of RV:
Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies by Jim Schnabel.
Also just out this month is, Captain of my Ship, Master of my Soul
The book by Fred Atwater who was responsible for creating the
Army's Remote Viewing Unit, it includes a CD with RV sessions, official documents, scientific studies.
Other books include: Mind Trek, Ultimate Time Machine, Remote Viewing
Secrets by Joe McMoneagle.
Ted Koppel on Nightline reported on it 1995. Discovery Channel and
A & E have had specials on it. Art Bell and Jeff Rense generally
have radio talking about it.
For those of you who mentioned that police don't really use
psychics, yeah right... check out PSISQUAD where many members
are police officers. Bevy Jaegers has helped muliple law enfocement
agencies. It's all documented.
As for you RV target, it wasn't a good one. It was a drawing, a conception. A location would have been better.
The person who said car deserves the 50.00. It was a direct hit.
But then, I get the feeling you really didn't want to pay.
For the nonbelivers and skeptics, well if you "really" wanted to know,
you could find out for yourself and get trained. That would cost
time and money. It would change your view of reality.
The last 3 years there has been an RV convention. For more
info you can visit: www.irva.org
Multiple scientist have research papers posted.
Links to trainers are posted.
If you have any questions you can email me. If you are in
the Portland Oregon area, I'd be glad to show you some sessions.
[email protected]
Cya,
Ralph
Is ignorance bliss?
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